Yet, what are the functions of a ruler? What is the goal of a ruler? The Socratian Ideal is to have philosophers as kings and kings as philosophers Morganwhile Machiavelli believes that a ruler should exhibit prudence Morgan
For a suitable donation, a question could be put to the Pythia and an answer obtained from Apollo. Since the words of the Pythia were hard to understand, the priests attending her wrote up the answer in verse and delivered it to the petitioner.
The answers were legendarily obscure or ambiguous -- the source of the modern of meaning of "oracular," which is precisely to be obscure or ambiguous. One example of the kinds of answers Delphi gave occurred when King Croesus of Lydiaof legendary wealth, sought advice on the attack against Persia he was contemplating.
Cyrus the Great had just overthrown the Medesinand Croesus figured that this must reveal the weakness of the Median state, and that, in any case, Cyrus' new realm was bound to be disorganized Compare socrates and machiavelli a while, giving the Lydians an opportunity to renew the war that had ended in But he was a cautious ruler, and sent a question to Delphi, asking what would happen if he attacked the Persians.
This is a revealing episode, since Croesus wasn't even a Greek. Delphi already had such a reputation. The answer that the Pythia delivered was that if Croesus attacked Cyrus, "a great kingdom will fall. He had no idea who he was dealing with, and was defeated very swiftly indeed.
Lydia became part of Persia in But Cyrus didn't kill, torture, or imprison Croesus. The former king was sent home to live in retirement, where he had the leisure to write back to Delphi and complain that he had been misled.
The priests answered his letter, telling him that what they had said was perfectly accurate. A great kingdom had indeed fallen, namely his.
Croesus might have worried which kingdom the god had referred to. Another example came when the Persians invaded Greece in King Xerxes wished to avenge the defeat of his father, Darius, at the battle of Marathon in I had a student once who worked at the "Phidippides Sports Center," a sports supply store in Encino, California.
This was named after the messenger who is supposed to have run back to Athens to report the defeat of the Persians. Unfortunately, Phidippides dropped dead once he had blurted out, "Victory is ours. The distance of a Marathon run is As it happens, the distance from Marathon to Athens is more like 19 miles 30 km.
We get the difference because the distance for the event was determined inwhen the Olympics were in London, and the run was from Windsor Castle to London's Olympic Stadium. So Phidippides didn't run nearly as far as a Marathon.
Indeed, Phidippides may not have done the run at all. He or "Philippides" is mentioned by Herodotus as running to Sparta from Athens before the battle to ask for helpbut there is no account of the run from Marathon for many centuries.
And when Plutarch relates the story, he doesn't mention Phidippides. Others fled the city. Unfortunately, after the Persians had flanked and eliminated the Spartans atThermopylae "Hot gates," i.
Athens, however, had just built a new fleet, under the command of Themistocles. He figured that the "walls of wood" meant the ships and that he should try and bring the Persians to action. He drew them into an attack in the narrow waters between the island of Salamis where most Athenians had fled and the mainland.Socrates and Machiavelli introduce unique theories in the area of justice and politics in an attempt to influence the importance of social relationships in politics.
Socrates believed in morality and ethics pertaining to politics and politics pertaining to the maintenance and purity of a person’s soul.
Compare Socrates And Machiavelli Compare and contrast the moral outlook of Socrates and the Sophists Although both the Sophists and Socrates are considered philosophers due to their interest in human morality, their outlook regarding the subject of Truth differs greatly The sophists were sceptics on the matter of the existence of eternal Truth, whilst to Socrates .
Machiavelli and Socrates essays Everyone has their own philosophies to deal with life as it is thrown at them. Machiavelli and Socrates offer guidance to societies so they may succeed, as noble rulers. Machiavelli gives his go get them attitude to help maintain power, which I agree with.
Machiavelli believes the state exists to make war, and a good ruler exists for only one purpose to make war, this is his only concern.
Machiavelli are writing in two different eras. In Plato's era, man based philosophy on utopian ideals and principles. The second edition of David Wootton's Modern Political Thought: Readings from Machiavelli to Nietzsche offers a new unit on modern constitutionalism with selections from Hume, Montesquieu, the Federalist, and Constant.
In addition to a new essay by Wootton, this unit features his new translation of Constant's essay "On Ancient and Modern Liberty". This reality, then, that gives their truth to the objects of knowledge and the power of knowing to the knower, you must say is the idea of the good, and you must conceive it as being the cause of knowledge  and of truth  in so far as known..
Plato, Republic, e, Republic II, translated by Paul Shorey, Loeb Classical Library, Harvard University Press, , , pp, color added.